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screenplaymaster
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posted July 31, 2000 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for screenplaymaster   Click Here to Email screenplaymaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Today there was a good commentary by Peter Bar in Variety in which he wrote about feces and fart jokes completely taking over in film comedy. "Today, there's growing evidence that the far jokes are driving out legitimate comedy."

In it he quotes Billy Wilder who said, "You have to be serious to direct a good comedy."

I personally don't have any problem with anyone doing anything to get a laugh in film, I just cringe at how easy it all is. Comedy writers are not putting out the effort to really get to the heart of what is funny in a situation. They compensate by having Sherman Klump fart instead of giving him some funny dialogue. And with the success of these films, what producer is going to demand higher standards.

Where is comedy screenwrite going and what do we have to do to turn it around? I still think the Simpsons is the best comedy writing around and they rarely resort to 'feces' humor. It's all character driven.

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bigcheese
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posted July 31, 2000 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigcheese   Click Here to Email bigcheese     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There have a few non-gross comedies over the last couple years. Election, Rushmore, Bowfinger, Bullworth...

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JoeyLevitch
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posted July 31, 2000 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoeyLevitch   Click Here to Email JoeyLevitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
'The Gastronaut' in 1983 was the last funny American movie. The limeys did okay with 'The Crying Game'. I thought that one was pretty funny. But other than that, nilch!
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happyjack
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posted August 01, 2000 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for happyjack   Click Here to Email happyjack     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Analyze This was a fairly conventional comedy that did well. These comedy films either play to older audiences or teenagers, there's rarely anything for late 20s-early 30s - that age group is pretty much lumped in with the older movies or be forced to endure American Pie over and over.

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CharlieDontSurf
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posted August 24, 2000 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CharlieDontSurf   Click Here to Email CharlieDontSurf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The funniest movie ever (in my opinion, of course) is Tootsie. This is the tighest script - no joke or character doesn't pay off. It's great.

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deepsouth
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posted September 08, 2000 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for deepsouth   Click Here to Email deepsouth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The In-Laws is my pick for greatest comedy ever!

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indiedan
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posted September 27, 2000 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indiedan   Click Here to Email indiedan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isn't it sad that all recent comedies have to be compared to "There's Something About Mary"? The Meet The Parents ads say that it's the best comedy since "There's Something About Mary". Since when did that movie become the benchmark for comedy?

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MissyHanover
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posted December 11, 2000 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MissyHanover   Click Here to Email MissyHanover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Clueless" is a great comedy from the last five years.

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a
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posted March 13, 2002 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for a   Click Here to Email a     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Best In Show was a great recent comedy. Shrek, a very funny script. Ocean's Eleven - very funny. Now if only the Oscars would consider comedies worthy of Best Picture. I agree with you, Charlie, why Tootsie wasn't Best Picture in 1982 is beyond me.

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LloydGrohl
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posted July 26, 2002 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LloydGrohl   Click Here to Email LloydGrohl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Comedy is dead.

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NEWSFLASH
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posted November 20, 2002 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NEWSFLASH   Click Here to Email NEWSFLASH     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
3 Arts Manager David Miner on the state of comedy right now:

"It's post-cynical. The idea is, everything has been done before. We've seen it all on TV. It's all crap. It's all fake. We know what we're doing is funny. But it's that much funnier if we don't let on that it's a joke."

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cstengel3
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posted November 22, 2002 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cstengel3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isn't THAT kind of cynical?

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NEWSFLASH
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posted May 28, 2003 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NEWSFLASH   Click Here to Email NEWSFLASH     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Will there be a pardon for Lenny Bruce?
http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/05/28/lenny.bruce.pardon.ap/index.html

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NEWSFLASH
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posted May 29, 2003 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NEWSFLASH   Click Here to Email NEWSFLASH     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hollywood star Robin Williams has joined a campaign to try and grant controversial comedian Lenny Bruce a posthumous pardon for obscenity charges. The foul-mouthed funnyman, who died of a drugs overdose in 1966, aged 39, was convicted after a six month trial on obscenity charges in 1964 after undercover police witnessed a performance at Cafe A Go Go in New York's Greenwich Village containing over 100 'obscene' words. However, Bruce's fans are now lobbying New York state Governor George Pataki to issue a legal pardon over the conviction. Bruce supporters, including 25 First Amendment lawyers, Williams and magicians Penn And Teller, have signed a letter to Pataki stating, "A pardon now is too late to save Lenny Bruce. But a posthumous pardon would set the record straight and thereby demonstrate New York's commitment to freedom - free speech, free press, free thinking." Bruce's daughter Kitty adds, "I truly believe my father's soul can rest in peace with this."

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cstengel3
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posted June 02, 2003 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cstengel3     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know that much about Bruce, but do you think he'd really care? If he was alive to hear about some posthumous thing like this happening, wouldn't it be the kind of thing he'd mock?

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