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fred
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posted August 12, 2003 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fred   Click Here to Email fred     Edit/Delete Message
Fox News is getting a little touchy. They can dish it out but they can't take it.

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(AP) - Al Franken, the humorist being sued by Fox News Channel for use of the phrase "fair and balanced," said Tuesday he doesn't mind the legal action. But he does wish it hadn't happened during his vacation. Fox sued the former "Saturday Night Live" performer and his publisher, the Penguin Group, to stop them from including "fair and balanced" in the title of his upcoming book.

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posted August 12, 2003 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fred   Click Here to Email fred     Edit/Delete Message
In reply to the excellent Fred's post - I would have to say that it is foolish for Fox News to play into Franken's hand. Their lawsuit has helped make it the #1 book on the Amazon most requested list. Fair and balanced will become a joke in the industry and when Bush goes down in 2004, they will rethink their philosophy. Just an opinion - fair and balanced.

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posted August 12, 2003 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AmericaFirst   Click Here to Email AmericaFirst     Edit/Delete Message
Fuck Al Franken. He sucked on Saturday Night Live and he sucks as a writer. He's lucky he has friends in high places or he wouldn't be shit! Limbaugh picks losers like him out of his stool!

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posted August 13, 2003 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mollyglover   Click Here to Email mollyglover     Edit/Delete Message
The Fox News Channel is the modern day equivalent of a Freak Show, cleverly disguised as a "fair and balanced" (so sue me) newscast.

I mean, who can really sit and listen to Greta Van-what's-her-namen perform a broadcast without waiting for the stationary corner of her mouth to move? It's just plain freaky and wrong. Her emotionless, Frankenstein-ian stare is like watching a botched botox injection. How about some emotion, Greta? A smile, a wink, for the love of God, just blink your eyes so we know you aren't on remote control.

Of course there's Sean Hannity and Alan Combes. This, no doubt, is the sort of programming Fox holds up as the "fair and balanced" portion of their broadcast. Right. They take a poster child, pretty-boy Republican, and put him up against a flacid, spineless "liberal" (though we have our doubts as to what his REAL political affiliation is) who is not nearly as appeasing to the eye, and not nearly as bright quite frankly. The mismatch allows Sean Hannity to walk all over him on most issues, while Alan can rarely muster up a counter argument that even makes any sense. thgis is the equivalent of modern day "blackface" for liberals, whereby they are made to look silly and entertaining. Fair and balanced. yeah.

I would start in on O'Reilly, but there is little to say that Franken hasn't already called him on. One little unknown factoid. After his interview with Jenna Jameson (a popular adult film star), he made an unsuccessful attempt to steamroller over her. He probably mistook her for an airheaded actress, with not much intellect, but apparently forgot that she had actually proven her intelligence under similar circumstances once before when she won a debate convincingly at Oxford on behalf of the porn industry. After having his balls handed to him on a plate by Jenna, he asked her off camera to send him a few copies of her work because he hadn't seen any of it.

So much for the self proclaimed keeper of the country's moral fabric. He is a hypocrite to the core. This shouldn't come as any surprise though, after all he DOES have a job on the Fox News Channel.

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posted August 13, 2003 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indiedan   Click Here to Email indiedan     Edit/Delete Message
Fox News Network has sued satirist Al Franken for using the phrase "fair and balanced" on the cover his upcoming book Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right. Fox claims the phrase is a "signature slogan" which it has used since 1996 and that Franken's use of it would "blur and tarnish" it. In its filing in Manhattan Supreme Court, Fox also describes Franken, a former Saturday Night Live writer and performer and author of the 1996 best seller Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot, as a "parasite" trying to use the Fox News phrase to boost sales of the book. Franken has not responded, but a spokeswoman for Dutton, a division of Penguin Publishers, said in a statement: "The attempt to keep the public from reading Franken's message is un-American and runs contrary to everything this country stands for."

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posted August 13, 2003 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for filmmaker     Edit/Delete Message
They copyrighted Fair & Balanced? It's copyrighted by Fox even though it isn't true. That's insane. It's like copyrighting - "We're the best network ever" - How is that possible?

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posted August 14, 2003 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fred   Click Here to Email fred     Edit/Delete Message
Bill O'Reilly has blamed the New York blackout on Al Franken and idiot liberals.

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posted August 27, 2003 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indiedan   Click Here to Email indiedan     Edit/Delete Message
#1 on the NY Times Bestseller list. Though probably not for long.

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posted August 28, 2003 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indiedan   Click Here to Email indiedan     Edit/Delete Message
Here's a good story about the book...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A56418-2003Aug27.html

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posted August 29, 2003 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cstengel3     Edit/Delete Message
This whole thing was nonsense from the start. How could Fox EVER think they had a case where this obvious parody or play on their phrase was concerned? I'm not a fan of Fox News so I'm not trying to defend them, but I just can't believe that people capable of putting together a big "news" organization like that could be so dumb nor that, as members of the media, they'd attack "freedom of expression", etc. Perhaps they knew all along raising a ruckus would give them a little more press and that was the reason behind it. I can't think of any other reasonable explanation for their actions.

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posted August 31, 2003 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fred   Click Here to Email fred     Edit/Delete Message
It was because of O'Reilly demanded that Fox take action. I don't think Ailes wanted to mess with it. I think Fox News has peaked and will soon start to get a backlash unless there is an editorial revolution which will change them to make them truly "fair and balanced". CNN will be the comeback story of the year when all is said and done.

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posted September 02, 2003 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fred   Click Here to Email fred     Edit/Delete Message
It's sad. I think the Franken momentum is gone. Conservatives are just naturally more aggressive and can continue to push their books at any chance they get. That's why Ann Coulter's book will still be on the NY Times list while Franken's goes away. Democrats need to get some advice from Michael Moore.

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posted March 31, 2004 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NEWSFLASH   Click Here to Email NEWSFLASH     Edit/Delete Message
Al's new talk show starts today.

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posted October 18, 2004 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NEWSFLASH   Click Here to Email NEWSFLASH     Edit/Delete Message
The Spin Zone

Fox News Channel has served legal papers on Andrea Mackris, notifying her that she is being terminated from her $93,200-a-year job as associate producer of The O'Reilly Factor. FNC has also asked a judge to rule that the firing is not in retaliation for her accusations last week that O'Reilly sexually harassed her. (However an FNC spokeswoman told the New York Daily News. "Ms Mackris is still employed by and on the payroll of Fox News.") On Friday night NBC's Dateline presented a feature about the case in which Mackris was seen at a story meeting with O'Reilly and other staffers proposing a story dealing with the ACLU's position on groups that promote abstinence in schools. On the same evening, O'Reilly did not appear on his program (a guest host sat in for him). He told the Daily News: "I am getting hounded by the press, and I knew I would be. ... This has been the worst day of my life."

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posted October 29, 2004 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indiedan   Click Here to Email indiedan     Edit/Delete Message
O'Reilly Scandal in No-Comment Zone

The scandal involving Fox News Channel commentator Bill O'Reilly and Andrea Mackris, an associate producer for his TV program, abruptly sputtered out Thursday as the two reached a settlement and dropped all lawsuits against each other. Mackris had sued O'Reilly and Fox for sexual harassment; O'Reilly had sued Mackris for extortion. Details of the settlement were not disclosed, and when the two were separately approached by reporters, Thursday night, each said they were barred from discussing it. "I will never speak of it again," said O'Reilly, pointing out to his TV viewers that he had admitted "no wrongdoing" in the settlement. "It's over and I'm happy," said Mackris.

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