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indiedan
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posted April 02, 2004 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indiedan   Click Here to Email indiedan     Edit/Delete Message
There may be nothing much here - but it is very disturbing and fascinating - here is a video of Bush after he was told of the SECOND plane hitting the World Trade Center. He sat in the classroom listening to children read for 5 excruciating minutes... I will cut him a little slack in that without seeing it on television - you can't possibly know the magnitude... but his staff still should have gotten him out of that chair...
http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/bush-911.htm

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White House Holds Back Clinton Papers

By Dan Eggen and Dana Milbank, Washington Post Staff Writers

The White House has not turned over thousands of pages of documents from the Clinton administration to a commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, even though the records are relevant to the panel's mission, one of Clinton's attorneys said yesterday.

Bruce R. Lindsey, who represents the former president on records issues, said yesterday that the Bush administration has turned over about 25 percent of the nearly 11,000 pages of Clinton records that document custodians had determined should be released to the commission investigating the terrorist attacks. Lindsey said that, as a result, the commission may not have a full picture of the Clinton administration's anti-terrorism efforts.

"I was concerned that the commission was making findings of fact based on an incomplete record," Lindsey said.

White House spokesman Sean McCormack said documents that have not been turned over are not relevant to the inquiry. "We're applying the same standards to documents from our administration and from the Clinton administration," he said.

Al Felzenberg, spokesman for the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, said the panel's executive director, Philip D. Zelikow, and staff counsel Daniel Marcus were aware of the problem and are negotiating with the White House. He said there may be a range of explanations, from duplicate records to disagreements about the relevance of some records.

"It may well be that everything has not made its way to us, but there may be a good reason or reasons," Felzenberg said.

Presidential records are sealed by law for five years after a president leaves office, but an exception was made to allow the panel access to the documents.

Lindsey's comments came on the same day the commission officially scheduled national security adviser Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites)'s public testimony before the panel for Thursday. White House attorneys had refused for weeks to allow Rice to testify publicly and under oath, but capitulated in an agreement reached Tuesday.

Rice is expected to be questioned closely about disagreements between her and Richard A. Clarke, her former aide, who told the commission on March 24 that the Bush administration did not move urgently before Sept. 11, 2001, to address warnings of a major terrorist attack and was later distracted from battling terrorism by the war in Iraq (news - web sites).

Zelikow said in an interview last night that he first notified the White House of the problem in February but that "we don't have answers yet." He said that although some of the documents are duplicates, many others were withheld because Bush lawyers decided they were "not responsive" to the commission's requests.

He said commission staff members have identified two examples of documents from the Clinton years that were relevant to the Sept. 11 inquiry but were not turned over. Those documents did not substantively change any of the panel's conclusions so far, Zelikow said.

Also yesterday, several commission members dismissed complaints from Democratic lawmakers and family members of terrorist attack victims that two Republican commissioners spoke with the White House's chief lawyer last week on the day that Clarke testified.

Commission Chairman Thomas H. Kean, a former Republican New Jersey governor, said that the two GOP panel members, Fred F. Fielding and James R. Thompson, have each served as liaisons with the White House and that their roles are well-known to the rest of the 10-member bipartisan panel.

Two Democratic commissioners, former Watergate prosecutor Richard Ben-Veniste and former Indiana congressman Timothy J. Roemer, also said they would not be concerned about such contacts. Several commission sources said that some Democratic members have had similar contacts with lawmakers from their party.

Rep. Henry A. Waxman (Calif.), the ranking Democrat on the House Government Reform Committee (news - web sites), complained in a letter to White House counsel Alberto R. Gonzales on Wednesday that contacts between Gonzales's office and the two GOP commissioners on March 24 would be improper because "the conduct of the White House is one of the key issues being investigated by the commission." Six House Democrats from New York sent a similar letter to the White House yesterday.

The Family Steering Committee, a group of relatives of Sept. 11 victims, said in a statement yesterday that the contacts "raise the concern that the independent and nonpartisan nature of the 9/11 Commission is being compromised."

Thompson has declined to comment on any contact with the White House but said, "I ask my own questions." Fielding has not returned repeated telephone calls seeking comment.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan said Waxman was trying "to politicize the 9/11 commission." He said: "Our counsel's office is in regular contact with the commission to make sure they have the information they need to do their job."

The White House refused yesterday to release the full text of a speech Rice had been scheduled to give on Sept. 11, 2001, saying the speech had not been delivered. The Washington Post, quoting former officials who have seen the text, reported yesterday that the speech was designed to promote missile defense as the cornerstone of a new national security strategy, and contained no mention of al Qaeda, Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) or Islamic extremist groups.

McClellan played down the significance of the speech, saying it was not a fair reflection of the full range of policy deliberations and actions on terrorism during the Bush administration's first months in office.

"We're talking about one speech here," McClellan told reporters. "Look at the actions and steps that we were taking prior to September 11. I think that's what you need to look at to measure our commitment to addressing this high priority."

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Planned Bush-Cheney Appearance Criticized
(AP) - House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi says it's baffling and embarrassing that President Bush is appearing before the Sept. 11 commission with Vice President Dick Cheney at his side instead of by himself. "I think it speaks to the lack of confidence that the administration has in the president going forth alone, period," Pelosi, D-Calif., said Friday. "It's embarrassing to the president of the United States that they won't let him go in without holding the hand of the vice president of the United States."

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posted April 02, 2004 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fred   Click Here to Email fred     Edit/Delete Message
Here's a good flick about Bush knowing but doing nothing...
http://www.takebackthemedia.com/true911.html

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Not bad testimony and I was looking for slip-ups. There will be enough slips to give Democrats enough ammo but not as much as they were hoping. And Republicans will definitely have ammo to shoot back.

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9/11 Families: Rice Fails to Answer All Questions
(AFP) - Relatives of September 11 attacks victims said testimony given by national security adviser Condoleezza Rice to an official commission failed to fully explain why the United States was caught off guard by al-Qaeda. "I think she really danced around the issues," said Mary Fetchet, whose son Bradley, 24, perished when terrorists flew a jetliner into the second World Trade Center tower on September 11, 2001.

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Alleged bin Laden tape offers truce to Europe

Says Madrid bombings were payback, vows revenge on Israel

DUBAI - Arab television stations aired a new audio tape purportedly from Osama bin Laden on Thursday offering a truce with European states if they stop attacking Muslims, but not with the United States.

The voice on the tape, broadcast by Dubai-based Al Arabiya channel and then by Qatar-based Al Jazeera station, said there would be no truce with the United States.

The taped message also vowed revenge on Israel for the death of Hamas leader Ahmed Yassin, killed last month in Gaza.

It was not immediately possible to verify the authenticity of the tape though the voice sounded like previous tapes thought to be genuine. The CIA has said some previous tapes purportedly from bin Laden were likely to be genuine.

Bin Laden's al-Qaida network is blamed by Washington for the September 11, 2001, attacks on U.S. cities.

The tape said the March 11 train bombings in Madrid that killed 191 people were payment for Spain's actions in Iraq, Afghanistan and "Palestine."

"What happened on September 11 and March 11 are your goods returned to you so that you know security is a necessity for all," the voice on the tape said.

Madrid sent troops to Iraq after Saddam Hussein was toppled and also has a contingent in Afghanistan. Militants claiming links to al-Qaida have claimed responsibility for the Madrid bombings, which have raised pressure on the government to withdraw Spanish troops from Iraq.

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But I thought he was Bush's buddy now...
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Fall of Saddam has allowed terrorism to bloom: Kadhafi

TRIPOLI (AFP) - The fall of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) has allowed terrorism, and notably Islamic extremism like that of Osama bin Laden (news - web sites), to flourish in Iraq (news - web sites), Libyan leader Moamer Kadhafi said, describing terror as a threat to the security of the whole world.

"Saddam's fall has not brought terrorism to an end," Kadhafi said in a televised speech on Wednesday.

"Far from it: it has found a bigger opportunity to flourish," he said, addressing an audience of Libyan police officers.

"The Al-Qaeda network did not exist before in Iraq, and now it is there, along with the renegades," said Kadhafi.

Al-Qaeda is bin Laden's underground extremist network, and the term "renegades" is used by Kadhafi to refer to Islamic extremists in general.

"They are fighting there (in Iraq) today; they are happy to be falling as martyrs before US and British soldiers, and want the front to broaden to Iran and Syria, to arrive in Palestine," the Libyan leader added.

Kadhafi, who last December announced that his country was giving up "weapons of mass destruction," called for terrorism to be combatted throughout the world.

"The security of the whole world is threatened," he said.

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WASHINGTON - The number of secret surveillance warrants sought by the FBI (news - web sites) has increased 85 percent in the past three years, a pace that has outstripped the Justice Department (news - web sites)'s ability to quickly process them.

Even after warrants are approved, the FBI often does not have enough agents or other personnel with the expertise to conduct the surveillance. The FBI still is trying to build a cadre of translators who can understand conversations that are intercepted in such languages as Arabic, Pashto and Farsi.


These findings are among those of investigators for the commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, which has harshly criticized the intelligence-gathering efforts of the CIA (news - web sites) and FBI.


FBI and Justice Department officials said Thursday they are working to address all three issues, which limit the government's ability to gather the kind of intelligence needed to head off another catastrophic terrorist attack.


The warrants, authorized by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, allow for wiretaps, video surveillance, property searches and other spying on people believed to be terrorists or spies. After the 2001 Patriot Act and a key 2002 court decision crumbled the legal wall separating the FBI's criminal and intelligence investigations, use of FISA warrants has soared as sharing of information has become easier.


Since 2001, the number of warrants has risen from 934 to more than 1,700 in 2003, according to the FBI. The FBI adopted streamlined procedures to move the warrant requests quickly from the field offices to headquarters after Sept. 11.


But a Sept. 11 commission report released this week found that the Justice Department approval process "continues to be long and slow" and that the mounting requests "are overwhelming the ability of the system to process them." Although there are provisions for the attorney general to issue emergency FISA warrants, these are good for only 72 hours before they must be reviewed by a special court.


The department and FBI are "attempting to address bottlenecks" in the system, the commission report found, but the difficulties suggest that some surveillance opportunities could be delayed or lost.


Attorney General John Ashcroft (news - web sites) is issuing new guidelines for the Justice Department's Office of Intelligence Policy and Review, which handles FISA requests, spokesman Mark Corallo said. The changes are aimed at reducing and preventing backlogs, he said.


"We have been in a constant state of revising and streamlining the FISA process," Corallo said. More lawyers are being added to the unit so the warrant requests are more quickly reviewed and sent to the court for approval.


The inability to gather enough evidence for a FISA warrant caused the FBI problems in the case of Zacarias Moussaoui, the only person charged in connection with the Sept. 11 attacks. He was taken into custody on immigration charges in August 2001 after his desire to learn to fly a Boeing 747 with little flight background aroused suspicions.


The FBI turned to the CIA to help produce evidence needed to show that Moussaoui might be connected to a foreign terrorist group, which would enable agents to get a FISA warrant to search Moussaoui's computer. That led to an Aug. 23-24 briefing memo to CIA Director George Tenet headlined "Islamic Extremist Learns to Fly," but nothing was done before the 19 hijackers completed the Sept. 11 plot that took nearly 3,000 lives.


The commission said it is possible that if the government had acted more quickly on the information involving Moussaoui it could have led authorities to the hijackers.


Some lawmakers and privacy activists worry that FISA remains ripe for abuse. Legislation introduced on Capitol Hill would require the Justice Department to publicly account for the number of Americans subjected to FISA surveillance and how often it is used in criminal cases.


"What it will do is go a long way toward assuaging growing public mistrust of the government," said Timothy Edgar, legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union (news - web sites).


Even if the FISA delays are solved, the FBI is struggling to provide the surveillance experts necessary to carry out the warrants. The commission staff found shortages at every FBI field office they visited and noted that some of these personnel "are not treated as part of an integrated intelligence program" and do not meet regularly with case agents working terrorism suspects.


The FBI has two main surveillance programs: the Special Surveillance Group, made up of nonagents who monitor foreign agents, spies and others not targets of a criminal investigation; and the Special Operations Group, made up of agents who deal with dangerous people such as terrorists or organized crime figures.

Both types of surveillance are extremely labor-intensive, requiring personnel to work in shifts for round-the-clock coverage of the target. They also must handle other types of criminal cases, including those involving the Mafia, public corruption and violent street gangs.

In his testimony to the commission, FBI Director Robert Mueller said the FBI has requested money from Congress for additional surveillance capabilities to meet the growing demand. And he said that while the FBI still faces a shortage of translators, any counterterrorism intercept deemed important is reviewed by a language expert within 24 hours.

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So now if gas prices come down we know the reason.
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Saudis said to boost oil output
No. 1 oil exporter will reportedly increase production before election in effort to help Bush.

April 19, 2004: 7:09 AM EDT

NEW YORK (CNN) - A top Saudi official has assured President Bush that his country will increase oil production to lower gas prices before November to help the president's re-election prospects, according to a broadcast report Sunday.

Washington Post journalist Bob Woodward, discussing his new book on the run-up to the Iraq war on CBS' '60 Minutes,' said Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the Saudi ambassador to the United States and a long-time friend of the Bush family, has given the pledge that "certainly over the summer, or as we get closer to the election, they could increase production several million barrels a day and the price would drop significantly."

Earlier this month, the Saudi ambassador publicly said his country wants to stabilize world oil prices because of the effect a price spike might have on economies around the world, including Saudi Arabia. He did not link the effort to the U.S. election.

Record-high gas prices have become an issue in the presidential race between Bush and the presumptive Democratic nominee, Sen. John Kerry.

Kerry has criticized Bush for not doing more to bring high prices under control, while the Bush campaign has run ads noting that Kerry once supported a 50-cent per gallon increase in the federal gasoline tax, which would have meant even higher prices.

Amid concerns that plans by OPEC to cut oil production could raise prices even further, Prince Bandar went to the White House April 1 to meet with National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice and to deliver a message to Bush from Crown Prince Abdullah, the de facto Saudi ruler.

Afterward, he told reporters that Saudi Arabia is committed to heading off any shortages in the world energy market.

"We will not allow shortages in the market because that will hurt the world economy," he said. "Saudi Arabia does not live on the moon. When the world economy gets hurt, we get hurt also."

He also said that the president and the crown prince "have been in touch on this subject for a while now."

"Both leaders feel strongly that higher energy prices have a negative impact on the world economy and on the recovery of the world economy," Prince Bandar said. "We will not allow shortage of the markets of oil in the market to increase the prices."

The ambassador said Saudi Arabia would like to see the price of oil, which now tops $33 a barrel, to be between $22 and $28 a barrel.

OPEC has said it plans to cut production by as much as 1 million barrels per day in April, which would further increase prices. However, Saudi Arabia, as OPEC's most influential member and largest producer, could thwart those plans.

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A SUICIDE bomb plot to kill thousands of soccer fans at Saturday’s Manchester United-Liverpool match was dramatically foiled yesterday.

Armed cops seized ten terror suspects in dawn raids.

Intelligence chiefs believe al-Qaeda fanatics planned to blow themselves up amid 67,000 unsuspecting supporters. A source said: “The target was Old Trafford.”

The Islamic fanatics planned to sit all around the ground to cause maximum carnage.

They had already bought the tickets for various positions in the stadium, cops revealed last night.

But armed cops foiled the horrific plot - which could have killed thousands watching Manchester United’s home game against Liverpool on Saturday - in a series of dawn raids yesterday.

Ten people were arrested after a massive surveillance operation involving British anti-terror units and American authorities.

A police source said: “The plot involved several individual bombers in separate parts of the stadium.

“If successful, any such attack would have caused absolute carnage. Thousands of people could have been killed.”

The planned attack would have had an instant global impact as the game is being televised worldwide.

More than 400 police swooped yesterday after a “major terrorist figure” under surveillance moved to Manchester. Police and intelligence organisations believe he came to direct the massacre, which would have been the first al-Qaeda-style outrage in Britain.

Special Branch and the security services had been monitoring their movements and eavesdropping on mobile phone calls for months.

The operation also involved the US National Security Agency and GCHQ, the Government’s intelligence listening post.

Seven of the suspects were held in Manchester and one each in South Yorkshire, Staffordshire and the West Midlands.

It is believed all have links to extremist Islamic organisations. They were being quizzed at separate police stations around North West England last night.

But it was unclear whether any explosives or weapons had been recovered.

Bombers planning the Old Trafford massacre would have run the risk of being searched going into the ground before the 3pm kick-off.

Manchester United said away fans and those sitting in the higher tiers were frisked.

The identities and details of the suspects remained top secret last night — even to many of those involved in the operation.

One of the raids was at a flat above Dolphins takeaway in Upper Brook Street, near Manchester University. The area has a large ethnic community with many properties converted into bedsits.

Irfaan Arif, who lives in a nearby flat, said: “I was woken at 4am, looked out of the window and saw a lot of armed police. There was loads of banging and shouting.”

The three-storey Dolphins building was cordoned off along with next-door properties housing AK Computers and Funky Fones.

Forensic experts in protective clothing moved in after the initial search teams.

A police spokesman confirmed: “A number of search warrants were executed under the Terrorism Act 2000. Ten people have been arrested on suspicion of being concerned in the commission, preparation or instigation of terrorism.

We are against these evil acts. In the religion of Islam we have tolerance.

“We appreciate the public interest in this but are unable to provide more specific details at this stage.”

Greater Manchester’s Assistant Chief Constable Dave Whatton said: “It was an anti-terrorism operation that has been going on for some time and it will continue in the future.

“This is the first action that the public have become aware of as it is overt. It is set against the background of an increased threat level across the country.

“The addresses raided will continue to be searched for some time. It is a complex inquiry.”

And he appealed: “Because of the national heightened threat levels we would still ask people to be vigilant and report any suspicious activity to police.”

Sheikh Mohammed bal Qadri, deputy director of a mosque in Upper Brook Street, said he did not believe any of his members were among those being held.

He added: “Since September 11 we have been very vigilant, as mosques should be.

“If I see a person who is new, I ask him why he is here and what he is doing and ask these kind of questions.

“We are against these evil acts. In the religion of Islam we have tolerance.” The raids follow revelations last week that police in Manchester had raised their terror alert level.

More than 50 officers were moved from regular duties to work on a task force committed to combating terrorism.

Police have also conducted detailed surveys of land around Manchester Airport to identify sites which could be used to launch missiles attacks on aircraft.

Manchester Central MP Tony Lloyd said yesterday: “Clearly this is one of the most difficult levels of policing. But when police get the information to act successfully the whole of the British public will applaud their actions.”

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(CNN) -- At least nine people have been killed and 125 wounded in a suicide bombing outside the Saudi General Security Building in the capital, Riyadh, hospital sources say.

Television pictures from the scene showed the entire front of the five-story building had been shattered. Burned-out and damaged cars littered the area.

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Poll: Americans Pessimistic on Terror War

By WILL LESTER, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Half of Americans have concerns that terrorists might be winning the war on terrorism, and one in five feels strongly that way, according to an Associated Press poll that found many people pessimistic about their security.

Fears about an attack against this country are high. Two-thirds in the poll said it was likely terrorists would strike before the November elections. And a third said it was likely there would be an attack at one of the political conventions this summer.


More than 30 months after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, two-thirds of Americans acknowledge some concern that terrorists may be recruiting faster than the United States can keep up. A third of those polled feel strongly this is the case, and another third say they have at least some worries.


"Terrorists are winning the war for the hearts and minds of the people in the Mideast," said Christine Wyatt, a 52-year-old church deacon in Clarkston, Mich.


Fears about the war on terrorism may be fueled by growing worries about the conflict in Iraq (news - web sites), which has been described by the Bush administration as a front line of the war on terror.


Those who think the military action in Iraq has increased the long-term risk of terrorism in the United States have increased from 40 percent in December to 54 percent now, according to the poll, conducted for the AP by Ipsos-Public Affairs.


The people who say the Bush administration made the right decision to go to war in Iraq, 48 percent, are now about even with those who think the administration made a mistake, 49 percent. In December, two-thirds said the administration made the right decision.


Doubts about the war on terrorism are higher among women, older Americans, people who make lower incomes and people with less than a high school education, according to the poll.


Others say the terror threat is receding after two and a half years without another attack.


"I don't think they're winning the war, but they're sure putting the fear of God in some countries," said Robert Slivinski, a 33-year-old paramedic and firefighter from Woodbury, Conn. "The threat has decreased since 9/11. We're keeping them at bay."


The AP-Ipsos poll, released Wednesday at The Associated Press annual meeting, found:


_ Half feel that, in some measure, the terrorists might be winning the war on terrorism. One in five in the poll feels strongly the terrorists are winning, while an additional 30 percent say there is at least "a little truth" to that statement.


_ More than a third say they have less faith in government's ability to protect them, and an additional fourth say there's at least some truth to that idea.


_ Nearly half feel strongly they are more pessimistic about the possibility of there ever being peace in the world, while an additional fourth say there may be some truth to that.


"I think we're twitching on the edge of Armageddon; a lot of people I work with feel the same way," said Michael Miller, a 49-year-old software tester from Las Cruces, N.M. He rejected the idea that terrorists are winning the fight, but he added, "They're not losing it, either."


As for the election campaign, President Bush (news - web sites) has the advantage over Democrat John Kerry (news - web sites) on people's trust to do a better job of protecting the country, 53 percent to 37 percent.


Some people say they've taken steps to safeguard themselves and their families in response to the terrorist attacks.


_ Three in 10 say they've assembled a kit with emergency supplies like food, water and batteries.

_ Two in 10 say they avoid crowded public spaces like shopping malls and amusement parks.

"I know so many people who are afraid to do things, who have changed their lifestyles," said Norma McElhaney,a 58-year-old school employee from Mineral Ridge, Ohio. "The last two years, our eighth grade class didn't go to Washington, D.C., something they had done for years."

Despite the widespread anxiety, many reject the notion of terrorists winning as unthinkable.

"I believe their cause is evil," said Cheryl Taylor, a 56-year-old teacher from Waterloo, Iowa. "I don't believe evil will win, I know it won't. I cling to the other hope."

The AP-Ipsos poll of 1,001 adults was taken April 5-7 and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. The Iraq questions were asked again April 16-18.

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Ex-NFL player Tillman killed in Afghanistan
(Reuters) - Former U.S. professional football player Pat Tillman, who gave up his lucrative sports career to join the military's elite special forces, has been killed in a firefight in Afghanistan, a U.S. official said on Friday. The official, who asked not to be identified, said Tillman was killed on Thursday. The 27-year-old soldier abruptly quit his National Football League career following the 2002 season and joined the Army a year after the attacks on America.

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All this coverage on Pat Tillman... so typical, Americans place higher value of life on NFL football player. He is not any greater than the other soldiers who died. Americans are so shallow.

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