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fred
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posted May 16, 2008 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fred   Click Here to Email fred     Edit/Delete Message
I think that other thread is toast. It won't take any new posts.

Any thoughts on the great John McCain's plan to get out of Iraq in... 2013!!!!!

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jollyjoe
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posted May 16, 2008 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jollyjoe   Click Here to Email jollyjoe     Edit/Delete Message
Piece of shit message boards. OK, we'll start a new one. THIS WAR SUCKS!

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posted May 18, 2008 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WallStreetJohnny   Click Here to Email WallStreetJohnny     Edit/Delete Message
We can't pull out in 2013. We can't pull out in 2053. This thing is a nightmare until we completely pull out like Vietnam and then there will be a horrible civil war and then, just maybe, in a couple of decades, things will start to look like a normal society. But nothing we do there will help.

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posted May 19, 2008 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for a   Click Here to Email a     Edit/Delete Message
The War in Iraq... here to stay.

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fred
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posted May 27, 2008 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fred   Click Here to Email fred     Edit/Delete Message
Still going well?

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indiedan
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posted May 29, 2008 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indiedan   Click Here to Email indiedan     Edit/Delete Message
Did Anchors Mislead Public On Iraq?

Appearing for the first time together on each of the major networks' morning programs to promote a Stand Up to Cancer telethon in September, Katie Couric, Charles Gibson, and Brian Williams defended themselves against claims in a new book by former White House spokesman Scott McClellan that they fell for administration propaganda in the lead-up to the invasion of Iraq. Although none of the three was anchoring a network newscast at the time, each acknowledged that they felt pressure from the White House to present the administration's policy on Iraq in a favorable way. Cbs's Couric appeared to echo previous statements by her predecessor Dan Rather that newsmen did not put hard questions to administration policy makers, a point McClellan also makes in his upcoming book, What Happened? Appearing at her old stomping grounds on the Today show, Couric said, "I know when we were covering it -- and granted the spirit of 9/11 people were unified and upset and angry and frustrated -- I do think we were remiss in not asking some of the right questions." Gibson said that he disagreed. "I think the questions were asked," he said, but the response was "just a drumbeat of support from the administration. It is not our job to debate them." Williams said that he was in Kuwait at the time and that he received calls on his cell phone from the the Pentagon "the minute they heard us report something that they didn't like. The tone of that time was quite extraordinary." He did not identify the Pentagon personnel who contacted him. Couric said that one unidentified press secretary called the executive producer of the Today show after an interview she conducted, "and they said, if you keep it up, we're gonna block access to you during the war." She added that anyone who questioned the administration's policies was "considered unpatriotic" and that public opinion affected "the level of aggressiveness that was exercised by the media."

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posted June 02, 2008 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for indiedan   Click Here to Email indiedan     Edit/Delete Message
McClellan Admits He Gave Media False Info
2 June 2008 10:32 AM, PDT

Former White House spokesman Scott McClellan admitted Sunday that he had "unknowingly" presented "false information" to the news media about President Bush's Iraq strategy. "I was part of this propaganda campaign, absolutely," McClellan conceded on Nbc's Meet the Press as he continued to promote his new book, What Happened: Inside the Bush White House and Washington's Culture of Deception. McClellan, who has been criticized by both the right and the left for not having voiced his objections while still part of the president's inner-circle, indicated that he agreed with those critics. "The most important lesson" that he came away with, he said, "is that it's important to speak up at the time and I was young and I probably should have spoken up about some of these issues sooner." Meanwhile, reporters Warren Strobel and Jonathan Landay of the Knight Ridder newspapers (purchased by McClatchy publications) who challenged the president's policies on Iraq beginning in early 2002 have criticized TV reporters who challenged McClellan's assertions that they did not ask him the right questions. On the McClatchy blog (http://washingtonbureau.typepad.com/nationalsecurity) the two outlined some of the questions that went unasked (except by them) in the run-up to the invasion and call the reporters' denials "Hogwash! Hogwash."

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posted July 09, 2008 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for N F S I 2   Click Here to Email N F S I 2     Edit/Delete Message
Networks "Switch Off" Iraq War

9 July 2008 10:31 AM, PDT

Although the Iraq War was regarded as "Story of the Year" on television newscasts in every year from 2003 through 2007 (except in 2005 when Katrina took over), coverage "came to a screeching halt last September," according to Andrew Tyndall, who covers the broadcast networks' nightly news programs on his website, The Tyndall Report. The September date marks the time Gen. David Petraeus told Congress that the "surge" was working. While the nightly newscasts had devoted an average of 26 minutes a week to the war during the previous five-year period, the number has now fallen to less than 6 minutes on all three network newscasts combined, Tyndall reports. "It has been like turning off a light switch," he commented. He pointed out that war coverage "is an expensive, dangerous unpleasant business" and "unpopular" with the programs' audiences. He suggested that the American public appears to agree with presidential candidate John McCain that the American public doesn't care whether troops remain in Iraq -- only whether they're being wounded or killed there.

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posted September 22, 2008 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for indiedan   Click Here to Email indiedan     Edit/Delete Message
Robbins Dedicates Film To Soldiers

22 September 2008 5:04 AM, PDT

Tim Robbins buddied up with battled-hardened soldiers to research his latest film role - and has dedicated the movie to them.

The Shawshank Redemption star, an outspoken critic of U.S. president George W. Bush's administration, plays a U.S. trooper on leave from a tour of duty in Iraq in upcoming film The Lucky Ones.

To get in character for the part, he visited soldiers at Fort Dix, New Jersey - and was surprised by their reaction to him.

Robbins tells the New York Daily News, "One soldier said 'I don't agree with your politics but I want you to know there was a guy I served with. He and I didn't see eye to eye politically on a damn thing, bit I liked his character and if there was anyone next to me in a hostile situation, it would be him.'

"I wanted to make a picture for these troops, something they could enjoy. Right now we need healing. We need to understand the experience of what it's like for the troops to come home."

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