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EthanRubidoux
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posted June 09, 2000 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EthanRubidoux   Click Here to Email EthanRubidoux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A request was made by one our faithful visitors from England to start a discussion on Cricket in general but more specifically about the current scandal involving a top South African team captain and whether he accepted money from bookmakers to fix matches. Across the pond, it's a huge scandal. So let's hear it Cricket fans, what do you think about this? Can the game recover from a scandal like this?

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neil_latham
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posted June 09, 2000 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neil_latham   Click Here to Email neil_latham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks much, Ethan. It's not so much going to affect Cricket in the UK, but you could say that South African cricket clubs will feel the fallout of this scandal for many years. They'll have to completely tear down the system and rebuild from scratch. It's tragic really. Cricket players just don't get the money of footballers, even though the owners are getting wealthier and wealther with these 5 day long games. The players sometimes don't have anywhere to turn other than corruption.

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BBCQueen
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posted June 11, 2000 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BBCQueen   Click Here to Email BBCQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It seems that South African officials want to end this cricket scandal as quickly as possible. A prosecutor has offered Hansie Cronje, Herschelle Gibbs and Henry Williams indemnity from criminal prosecution if they tell all about their involvement in match-fixing. It's all been such a terrible business and I can only hope the infection doesn't spread to England.

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tulip49
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posted June 11, 2000 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tulip49   Click Here to Email tulip49     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's a great quote from Cronje about why he made the deal with a bookmaker. It was printed in the Guardian:

"In a moment of stupidity and weakness I allowed Satan and the world to dictate terms to me. The moment I took my eyes off Jesus my whole world turned dark."

The case gets curiouser and curiouser.

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neil_latham
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posted June 12, 2000 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for neil_latham   Click Here to Email neil_latham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How low do you have to agree to play poorly for 8 thousand pounds! Where is your pride, man? Sure, cricket players get the shaft when it comes to compensation - but how could you take money to play bad? I don't understand it.

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neil_latham
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posted June 12, 2000 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neil_latham   Click Here to Email neil_latham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More corruption news for you Yanks. By the way, Tulip49 from Las Vegas, is it possible you are an American female and interested in cricket? What gives?

Here's today's latest:

"International cricket has been riddled with corruption, with both players and umpires on the take from bookmakers and matches being fixed on a regular basis, South Africa's top cricket official testified Monday. Dr. Ali Bacher delivered his stinging indictment of the sport before a commission of inquiry investigating corruption."

They are really milking this drama. It may seem inconsequential in the States but it is a huge controversy here.

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BBCQueen
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posted June 13, 2000 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BBCQueen   Click Here to Email BBCQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's all about integrity, isn't it? People all over the world work at jobs that don't pay well but that doesn't mean they start stealing from the company. Sure the fatties are making a lot more pounds than you ever will, but that doesn't mean you commit crimes. What these players have done is despicable. They should be banned for life and have to get real jobs where they can be really unhappy - like the rest of us.

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neil_latham
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posted June 13, 2000 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for neil_latham   Click Here to Email neil_latham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
David Lloyd - English cricket coach said "If there was skullduggery going on, then it was nothing to do with England."

It's good to England had nothing to do with corruption... HA HA HA HA HA HA...

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neil_latham
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posted June 13, 2000 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neil_latham   Click Here to Email neil_latham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, good God, read this:

"Former South Africa wicketkeeper Dave Richardson told a government inquiry on Tuesday that former captain Hansie Cronje had approached the team with an offer of $250,000 to throw a match."

I realize I may be boring you Yanks - but Christ on a Stick, this is big stuff for cricket fans worldwide.

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neil_latham
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posted June 15, 2000 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neil_latham   Click Here to Email neil_latham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HE CONFESSED!!! Hansie Cronje said that on multiple occasions he too money from gamblers! He said he is retiring and will never play organized cricket again. He asked the court for protection because he is getting death threats. If you ask me, someone should carry out that threat. What a disgrace!

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BBCQueen
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posted June 16, 2000 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BBCQueen   Click Here to Email BBCQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A truly amazing thing. This scandal is HUGE! I can't believe he completely confessed. Oh, so he took the money but never had his team throw a game! Then why didn't the gamblers break his legs. Of course, he had them throw the games!!!

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neil_latham
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posted June 19, 2000 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neil_latham   Click Here to Email neil_latham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now it looks like India was to extradite Hanje from South Africa for prosecution in India. He won't face charges in South Africa because he came clean. The story is starting to grow a little stale. It's now on the bottom of daily rags.

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neil_latham
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posted June 27, 2000 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for neil_latham   Click Here to Email neil_latham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More juicy details (which I'm sure you all care about in the States - thanks for indulging me) from World Sport:

"Testimony from sweet shop owner Hamid Cassiem was only souring to disgraced former South African captain Hansie Cronje. Cassiem said on Monday he witnessed London-based bookmaker Sanjay Chawla hand an envelope containing money to Cronje in January. The pair allegedly had a 10-minute conversation about cricket prior to the exchange. "I was surprised that Cronje took it," Cassiem said. Meanwhile, Cronje spoke up in the press, begging for forgiveness in a newspaper statement."

TOO LATE FOR FORGIVENESS ASSHOLE.

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neomorpheus
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posted June 27, 2000 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neomorpheus   Click Here to Email neomorpheus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know anything about cricket and I never want to learn. It looks boring as all hell. But I must say, that is one interesting story.

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neil_latham
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posted June 28, 2000 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for neil_latham   Click Here to Email neil_latham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, neomorpheus. I knew if I could reach just one person and enlighten them to the great story across the pond, then my work would be done. But it's not. I want to reach two people.

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