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EthanRubidoux
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From:Bel Air, CA
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posted June 09, 2000 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EthanRubidoux   Click Here to Email EthanRubidoux     Edit/Delete Message
This is Ethan Rubidoux, I'm President of Manka Bros. Consumer Products, Live Theatre and Sports. Since our online division falls under the consumer products banner, I have been asked to be moderator for the Internet forums until we decide what we're doing in regards to a spin-off of our internet assets. It's all up in the air right now. But that shouldn't stop you from posting your thoughts about the fascinating world of online. What's your favorite sites, least favorite sites... Like the header says - Anything goes.

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lousydrunk
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posted June 09, 2000 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lousydrunk   Click Here to Email lousydrunk     Edit/Delete Message
I'll start. What's the deal with all the dot coms going out of business? How much does it cost to turn on your computer and put up a bunch of crappy animation or write up some crappy business report. It's not like a store that has to have inventory to survive. What costs so goddamned much money?

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tomkins
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posted June 09, 2000 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tomkins   Click Here to Email tomkins     Edit/Delete Message
Everything is just up in the air. Nobody knows what to do. People get money, hire people away from great careers, six months later, they lay them off saying they were just a little ahead of their time. It was sure exciting there for a couple of years. Now people have to really get to work and actually do the really boring stuff - which is figure out how to make money.

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arrowhead
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posted June 12, 2000 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for arrowhead   Click Here to Email arrowhead     Edit/Delete Message
Anybody know what's going on over at Pop.com. They were supposed to launch like 3 or 4 months ago. I'm curious to see what $50 million dollars will get you on the internet.

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DavidChang
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posted June 12, 2000 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DavidChang   Click Here to Email DavidChang     Edit/Delete Message
They just keep pushing back their launch date. I hear there's quite a bit of turmoil over there. Strategy shifts, redesign problems, content problems, etc. It will be very interesting to see how that whole thing comes to fruition.

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Aragorn278
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posted June 13, 2000 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aragorn278     Edit/Delete Message
All I know is that I don't have much sympathy for most of these companies. They've got millions, are run by a bunch of suits with business experience and degrees up the whazoo and yet most of them wont outlast the homepages on AOL, etc. You can aruge that one of the two isn't getting the hits the other does, but I'd respond by saying (a) the amateur isn't losing millions upon millions (b) it isn't taking the amateur 140 people to create a bad page and lose millions (c) when all the millions are gone the amateurs page is probably still going to be there.

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email
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posted June 13, 2000 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for email   Click Here to Email email     Edit/Delete Message
And I actually think some AOL homepages actually have a greater chance at success because they are unencumbered by a business plan that no one could possibly execute. There's something freeing to not having to answer to anybody and just doing whatever the hell you want. The best ideas come from goofing around. Hollywood took the fun out of the internet and "amateur outsiders" are going to have to bring it back.

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TypewriterMonkey
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posted June 14, 2000 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TypewriterMonkey   Click Here to Email TypewriterMonkey     Edit/Delete Message
I'm in complete agreement, email. You could never convince anyone in Hollywood that they're doing the wrong thing. Someone with a Blair Witch will come along - Hollywood will make clone-type material and hire the creators of the new Blair Witch and feel that they're on the cutting edge. The internet will be the same way. Studios never feel behind the curve. They always have the money to BE the curve.

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EthanRubidoux
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posted June 22, 2000 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for EthanRubidoux   Click Here to Email EthanRubidoux     Edit/Delete Message
There was a good story from Bloomberg on the (what looks like) the eventual demise of Salon.com. It's a great snapshot of how all these highly capitalized dot coms are falling apart. The link given on Bloomberg wasn't the right URL. So go to Bloomberg.com and search for Salon.com. Interesting stuff about stock underwriters.

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MustangJimmy
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posted June 27, 2000 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MustangJimmy   Click Here to Email MustangJimmy     Edit/Delete Message
I saw that iFilm actually laid off like 11 people. They say it was because a few people did the same jobs and wanted to colidate. Don't they know, unless you are truly in a cash crunch, this is a bad time to lay off people. It makes you look like you're really in trouble.

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dicknixon
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posted June 28, 2000 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dicknixon   Click Here to Email dicknixon     Edit/Delete Message
Things are sad when you're not even sure if Amazon can make it. All those orders and you still can make a profit. Now they've got the customers but don't have the resources. I guess big companies will win out again.

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DavidChang
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posted June 29, 2000 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DavidChang   Click Here to Email DavidChang     Edit/Delete Message
The major studios will win the marketshare race. But unlike film where you need a theater, a very expensive print and a projectionist - the internet as a means for anyone to entertain will never be controlled by big media. Someone can always come along and shake up the industry. That's the great thing about it. We, at big studios, will have to stay on our toes.

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DonQuixote
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posted July 01, 2000 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DonQuixote   Click Here to Email DonQuixote     Edit/Delete Message
People in America have no idea what the internet really means. It is almost considered a new toy. A way to get information on weather and maps with directions. The internet is not going away and will be the main source of information and entertainment in the future. And whether computers become televisions or television become computers or both - the internet will be the main source of all communication in 5 - 10 years.

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happyjack
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posted July 05, 2000 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for happyjack   Click Here to Email happyjack     Edit/Delete Message
APB News files for bankruptcy.

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posted July 07, 2000 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cstengel   Click Here to Email cstengel     Edit/Delete Message
I may have issues with what got them (APBNews) into this mess, but you can't accuse these guys of not doing everything they can to stay alive. Hope this one makes it. Originally thought the site was exploitive, but was actually much more respectable than I had imagined. Again, hope they make it.

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